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Jose Adriano Baltieri TCP/IP for DOS
on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 08:25:12 -0300
Hello Group !

         Have some Clipper applications that deal with telephony using a
3rd party product. It answer calls from a 0800 and talks to a Unisys
mainframe using a proprietary protocol. Also have faxing, voice
recording, e-mail integration and etc.

         Well, I'd like so much to XPPit but, that 3rd party telephony
product wont go to Windows nor XBase++ and, also, we dont have a
"on-the-shelf", cheap product to deal with Telephony & XBase++. Wish we
had.

         Anyway, I need to do that Clipper application talk to the
mainframe with TCP/IP. The proprietary protocol is about to loose
support.

         So, finally, TCP/IP for DOS ?  Or, a telephony library that we
could use inside XBase++ ?

         Does anyone knows something about it ?

         Does anyone has a working product for that ?

         thanXs for any kind of helPP !



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                                Obrigado/Thanks a Lot,

                          Jose Adriano Baltieri
                          Analista de Sistemas/Systems Analyst
                          CPD - CENTRO / Data Processing Dept
                          UNIMEP - Universidade Metodista de Piracicaba/

                          UNIMEP - Methodist University of Piracicaba
                          PIRACICABA - SP - BRASIL
                          Fone : 055 0 XX 19 3124-1858 (english spoken)
                          Fax  : 055 0 XX 19 3124-1898 (cx postal 42778)
Clayton Jones Re: TCP/IP for DOS
on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 08:19:24 -0400
Hello Jose,

Try this for the telephony part

    http://www.crystalcom.com


Regards, - cj




Clayton Jones   www.cjcom.net 
 Top-Down Library for Xbase++
 X-DBU Database Utility   
 X-MEMO Memo Field Replacement

2nd US Developer Conference   Sept. 30 - Oct. 2, 2002
Info at: http://www.xbaseusdevcon.com
Jose Adriano Baltieri Re: TCP/IP for DOS
on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:30:27 -0300
Clayton Jones wrote:

> Hello Jose,
>

   How are you doing cj ?

>
> Try this for the telephony part
>
>     http://www.crystalcom.com
>

    thanXs for your suPPort !
    The problem is that, they dont seem to have a "voice mail" library,
if you know what I mean. They have something to dial and work with faxes
but, to dump wav files into the phone call is another story...
    Anyway, I'll try to mail'em for more info.
    Thanks again !

>
> Regards, - cj
>
> Clayton Jones   www.cjcom.net
>  Top-Down Library for Xbase++
>  X-DBU Database Utility
>  X-MEMO Memo Field Replacement
>
> 2nd US Developer Conference   Sept. 30 - Oct. 2, 2002
> Info at: http://www.xbaseusdevcon.com

--


                                Obrigado/Thanks a Lot,

                          Jose Adriano Baltieri
                          Analista de Sistemas/Systems Analyst
                          CPD - CENTRO / Data Processing Dept
                          UNIMEP - Universidade Metodista de Piracicaba/

                          UNIMEP - Methodist University of Piracicaba
                          PIRACICABA - SP - BRASIL
                          Fone : 055 0 XX 19 3124-1858 (english spoken)
                          Fax  : 055 0 XX 19 3124-1898 (cx postal 42778)
Clayton Jones Re: TCP/IP for DOS
on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:57:49 -0400
Hello Jose,

>How are you doing cj ?

Doing well here, thanks.  Always more to do than time allows.


>The problem is that, they dont seem to have a "voice mail" library,
>if you know what I mean. They have something to dial and work with faxes
>but, to dump wav files into the phone call is another story...
>Anyway, I'll try to mail'em for more info.

I didn't know they had anything for faxing.  Please let us know what
you find.  I'm real interested to know what is available in this area.
Right now I use the MarshallSoft Library for email, but I need a Fax
solution similar to Faxual II.

Regards, - cj


Clayton Jones   www.cjcom.net 
 Top-Down Library for Xbase++
 X-DBU Database Utility   
 X-MEMO Memo Field Replacement

2nd US Developer Conference   Sept. 30 - Oct. 2, 2002
Info at: http://www.xbaseusdevcon.com
Jose Adriano Baltieri Re: TCP/IP for DOS
on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:11:04 -0300
Clayton Jones wrote:

> Hello Jose,
>
> >How are you doing cj ?
>
> Doing well here, thanks.  Always more to do than time allows.

                                          So do I. And, to complicate even
more the things (or to make them better), my will to do a lot is also
enormous. Self pressure stress 
                                           Just kidding. I just wanna say I'm
very motivated. Like so much XBase++ and, have wish to do lots of things with
it, beyond the ones I've done already. Miss the time, this is true.
                                           But, let's go to the issue...

>
>
> >The problem is that, they dont seem to have a "voice mail" library,
> >if you know what I mean. They have something to dial and work with faxes
> >but, to dump wav files into the phone call is another story...
> >Anyway, I'll try to mail'em for more info.
>
> I didn't know they had anything for faxing.  Please let us know what
> you find.  I'm real interested to know what is available in this area.
> Right now I use the MarshallSoft Library for email, but I need a Fax
> solution similar to Faxual II.

   Ok. Knew Faxual II a long time ago but discarded it cause, needed voice
interactions. What I do is that I have, amongst other things at the
voice-mail platform, a fax server. It dials and, when "B side" picks up the
call, it says "Hello, this is a fax call from UNIMEP. Please, press your
start button". Because, many offices wont receive your fax if you dont
identify yourself. Also, when I receive faxes, I pick up the call and say :
"Hello, this is UNIMEP's automatic fax receival system. Please dial the
destination mail box no". And, the fax will fall into the user's mail box
account as an e-mail message.

   Of course, there's also the 0800 system wich just cant live without voice
(and fax too).

   Had heard something about Teletopia, guess Mr Robert or something like
that. The fact is : haven't heard anything else.

   IMHO, this is a missing area of XBase++. On the other major market areas,
there's a covering. Say for Internet, GUI, development tools and so far. But,
for telephony there's nothing. Also think there should be something
"affordable for all" or, something that could start from simple single cheap
voice fax modem cards enabling one to move up even to Dialogic boards but,
only and if they could...

   Sorry for being so "over talkative". See ya !

>
> Regards, - cj
>
> Clayton Jones   www.cjcom.net
>  Top-Down Library for Xbase++
>  X-DBU Database Utility
>  X-MEMO Memo Field Replacement
>
> 2nd US Developer Conference   Sept. 30 - Oct. 2, 2002
> Info at: http://www.xbaseusdevcon.com

--


                                Obrigado/Thanks a Lot,

                          Jose Adriano Baltieri
                          Analista de Sistemas/Systems Analyst
                          CPD - CENTRO / Data Processing Dept
                          UNIMEP - Universidade Metodista de Piracicaba/
                          UNIMEP - Methodist University of Piracicaba
                          PIRACICABA - SP - BRASIL
                          Fone : 055 0 XX 19 3124-1858 (english spoken)
                          Fax  : 055 0 XX 19 3124-1898 (cx postal 42778)
John D. SauvigneRe: TCP/IP for DOS
on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:45:29 -0400
Hi Clayton,

Another alternative to faxing is to email the fax to a fax service and 
let them fax it out. $.08 / page or less within the US, no long distance 
charges, and you don't have to mess with the modem connections, phone 
lines, tying up the computer, etc. I use the MarshallSoft Library to 
email the text file to VisionLab (www.visionlab.com) and let them do all 
the work. Plus they provide all the reporting and tracking functions 
online for my customers. I sign up my customers into one account at 
VisionLab which they discount for me so I make the spread on each fax 
they send.


John.

-------------------------------------

Clayton Jones wrote:

>Hello Jose,
>
>  
>
>>How are you doing cj ?
>>    
>>
>
>Doing well here, thanks.  Always more to do than time allows.
>
>
>  
>
>>The problem is that, they dont seem to have a "voice mail" library,
>>if you know what I mean. They have something to dial and work with faxes
>>but, to dump wav files into the phone call is another story...
>>Anyway, I'll try to mail'em for more info.
>>    
>>
>
>I didn't know they had anything for faxing.  Please let us know what
>you find.  I'm real interested to know what is available in this area.
>Right now I use the MarshallSoft Library for email, but I need a Fax
>solution similar to Faxual II.
>
>Regards, - cj
>
>
>Clayton Jones   www.cjcom.net 
> Top-Down Library for Xbase++
> X-DBU Database Utility   
> X-MEMO Memo Field Replacement
>
>2nd US Developer Conference   Sept. 30 - Oct. 2, 2002
>Info at: http://www.xbaseusdevcon.com 
>
>
>  
>
Clayton Jones Re: TCP/IP for DOS
on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:52:03 -0400
Hi John,

>Another alternative to faxing is to email the fax to a fax service and 
>let them fax it out. $.08 / page or less within the US, no long distance 
>charges, and you don't have to mess with the modem connections, phone 
>lines, tying up the computer, etc. I use the MarshallSoft Library to 
>email the text file to VisionLab (www.visionlab.com) and let them do all 
>the work. Plus they provide all the reporting and tracking functions 
>online for my customers. I sign up my customers into one account at 
>VisionLab which they discount for me so I make the spread on each fax 
>they send.

Good point, I'll keep in in mind.  I'm not at that place in the app
conversion yet, but it's looming over the horizon.  Thanks.

Regards, - cj



Clayton Jones   www.cjcom.net 
 Top-Down Library for Xbase++
 X-DBU Database Utility   
 X-MEMO Memo Field Replacement

2nd US Developer Conference   Sept. 30 - Oct. 2, 2002
Info at: http://www.xbaseusdevcon.com
Jose Adriano Baltieri Re: TCP/IP for DOS
on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:28:26 -0300
"John D. Sauvigne" wrote:

> Hi Clayton,
>
> Another alternative to faxing is to email the fax to a fax service and
> let them fax it out. $.08 / page or less within the US, no long distance
> charges, and you don't have to mess with the modem connections, phone
> lines, tying up the computer, etc. I use the MarshallSoft Library to
> email the text file to VisionLab (www.visionlab.com) and let them do all
> the work. Plus they provide all the reporting and tracking functions
> online for my customers. I sign up my customers into one account at
> VisionLab which they discount for me so I make the spread on each fax
> they send.
>

   Very handy, indeed. In my case I deal with it all on my programs... For
instance : the purchasing dept sends invitations to several suppliers for some
product we're needing to buy. The fax server dispatches all of the invitations
(broadcast). It may try up to 12 times for a given number. Finally, it will
abandon this number and will go to the original database and flag that
supplier as "unreached". The purchasing dept may know that on-line and call to
the supplier before the dead line.
   But all of this sophistication is nowadays too exagerated cause, most of
our invitations will leave from the system by e-mail and, on the e-mail the
supplier has a link that will lead him/her to a dynamic html form where
he/she'll type in his/her prices and send, right into the database again. With
the fax answer, the purchasing dept has to type it all.
   But, many suppliers still dont have a computer. So, back to the fax...

   There's also the fax on demand side that you should also consider... Again,
we need the voice-mail library.

> John.
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Clayton Jones wrote:
>
> >Hello Jose,
> >
> >
> >
> >>How are you doing cj ?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Doing well here, thanks.  Always more to do than time allows.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>The problem is that, they dont seem to have a "voice mail" library,
> >>if you know what I mean. They have something to dial and work with faxes
> >>but, to dump wav files into the phone call is another story...
> >>Anyway, I'll try to mail'em for more info.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I didn't know they had anything for faxing.  Please let us know what
> >you find.  I'm real interested to know what is available in this area.
> >Right now I use the MarshallSoft Library for email, but I need a Fax
> >solution similar to Faxual II.
> >
> >Regards, - cj
> >
> >
> >Clayton Jones   www.cjcom.net
> > Top-Down Library for Xbase++
> > X-DBU Database Utility
> > X-MEMO Memo Field Replacement
> >
> >2nd US Developer Conference   Sept. 30 - Oct. 2, 2002
> >Info at: http://www.xbaseusdevcon.com
> >
> >
> >
> >

--


                                Obrigado/Thanks a Lot,

                          Jose Adriano Baltieri
                          Analista de Sistemas/Systems Analyst
                          CPD - CENTRO / Data Processing Dept
                          UNIMEP - Universidade Metodista de Piracicaba/
                          UNIMEP - Methodist University of Piracicaba
                          PIRACICABA - SP - BRASIL
                          Fone : 055 0 XX 19 3124-1858 (english spoken)
                          Fax  : 055 0 XX 19 3124-1898 (cx postal 42778)