I was not able to connect to this News Sever (news.alaska-software.net) with 
my (preferred) news reader (tin). It always hangs when it tries to read the 
newsgroup list. I therefore had to use "40tude" from my Win98SE computer.

I do not have any problems accessing other news servers with tin, so I am 
suspecting a (setup?) problem on the server side. Any chance that this could 
be changed, for example by using the same server software and/or settings as 
the old Xbase news server (at news.alaska-software.com)? I would certainly 
appreciate that!

-- Andreas

---                                                                      ---
  Andreas Gehrs-Pahl                Mail: GPahl@CharterMI.net
  415 Gute Street                     or: Andreas@DDPSoftware.com
  Owosso, MI 48867-4410               or: Andreas@Aerospace-History.net
  Tel: (989) 723-9927           Web Site: http://www.Aerospace-History.net
---                                                                      ---

Andreas Gehrs-Pahl <Andreas@DDPSoftware.com> wrote in
news:1jssxwn7vcm0u.dm6ujk46q8c1$.dlg@40tude.net: 

> I was not able to connect to this News Sever (news.alaska-software.net)
> with my (preferred) news reader (tin). It always hangs when it tries to
> read the newsgroup list. I therefore had to use "40tude" from my Win98SE
> computer. 
> 
> I do not have any problems accessing other news servers with tin, so I
> am suspecting a (setup?) problem on the server side. Any chance that
> this could be changed, for example by using the same server software
> and/or settings as the old Xbase news server (at
> news.alaska-software.com)? I would certainly appreciate that!
> 
> -- Andreas
> 
> ---                                                                     
> --- 
>   Andreas Gehrs-Pahl                Mail: GPahl@CharterMI.net
>   415 Gute Street                     or: Andreas@DDPSoftware.com
>   Owosso, MI 48867-4410               or: Andreas@Aerospace-History.net
>   Tel: (989) 723-9927           Web Site:
>   http://www.Aerospace-History.net 
> ---                                                                     
> --- 
> 

Hello Andrea,
My prefered news reader is 40tude  (I don't know tin)
I am trying to connect to the news server with it but no success. I have 
had to use Xnews 
Maybe it is a question of setup. Can you give me the setup details you use 
with 40tude ?

Many thanks and happy new year
Raymond

Raymond Fischbach
Namur - Belgium
www.cpmn.be

Andreas Gehrs-Pahl <Andreas@DDPSoftware.com> wrote in
news:1jssxwn7vcm0u.dm6ujk46q8c1$.dlg@40tude.net: 

> I was not able to connect to this News Sever (news.alaska-software.net)
> with my (preferred) news reader (tin). It always hangs when it tries to
> read the newsgroup list. I therefore had to use "40tude" from my Win98SE
> computer. 
> 
> I do not have any problems accessing other news servers with tin, so I
> am suspecting a (setup?) problem on the server side. Any chance that
> this could be changed, for example by using the same server software
> and/or settings as the old Xbase news server (at
> news.alaska-software.com)? I would certainly appreciate that!
> 
> -- Andreas
> 
> ---                                                                     
> --- 
>   Andreas Gehrs-Pahl                Mail: GPahl@CharterMI.net
>   415 Gute Street                     or: Andreas@DDPSoftware.com
>   Owosso, MI 48867-4410               or: Andreas@Aerospace-History.net
>   Tel: (989) 723-9927           Web Site:
>   http://www.Aerospace-History.net 
> ---                                                                     
> --- 
> 

Andrea,
Please forget my previous request ... it works now

Raymond Fischbach
Namur - Belgium
www.cpmn.be

Hello Raymond,

can you tell me what you have changed? I use 40tude too and can't read the
news (i have to write this with outlook express...

Can you give me a hint?

Greetings
Markus


"Raymond Fischbach" <noemail@spam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Xns945C6C8B5341Braffly@217.160.95.134...
> Andreas Gehrs-Pahl <Andreas@DDPSoftware.com> wrote in
> news:1jssxwn7vcm0u.dm6ujk46q8c1$.dlg@40tude.net:
>
> > I was not able to connect to this News Sever (news.alaska-software.net)
> > with my (preferred) news reader (tin). It always hangs when it tries to
> > read the newsgroup list. I therefore had to use "40tude" from my Win98SE
> > computer.
> >
> > I do not have any problems accessing other news servers with tin, so I
> > am suspecting a (setup?) problem on the server side. Any chance that
> > this could be changed, for example by using the same server software
> > and/or settings as the old Xbase news server (at
> > news.alaska-software.com)? I would certainly appreciate that!
> >
> > -- Andreas
> >
> > --- 
> > --- 
> >   Andreas Gehrs-Pahl                Mail: GPahl@CharterMI.net
> >   415 Gute Street                     or: Andreas@DDPSoftware.com
> >   Owosso, MI 48867-4410               or: Andreas@Aerospace-History.net
> >   Tel: (989) 723-9927           Web Site:
> >   http://www.Aerospace-History.net
> > --- 
> > --- 
> >
>
> Andrea,
> Please forget my previous request ... it works now
>
>
> -- 
> Raymond Fischbach
> Namur - Belgium
> www.cpmn.be

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:45:19 +0100, Partiemann wrote:

> Hello Raymond,
> 
> can you tell me what you have changed? I use 40tude too and can't read the
> news (i have to write this with outlook express...
> 
> Can you give me a hint?
> 
> Greetings
> Markus
> 
Hello Markus,

Answered by e-mail

Raymond Fischbach
Belgium
http://www.mouches.org

"Raymond Fischbach" <r_fischbach@tvcablenet.be> wrote in message
news:upqz6gmc8di4$.15qj7qextn8t0$.dlg@40tude.net...

> Hello Markus,
>
> Answered by e-mail

Raymond,

would you be so kind to post that info also here in this newsgroup?
We are still having problems with certain newsreaders, it seems, and
we appreciate all the info we can get.

Thanks a lot,
  Till
  [Alaska Research & Development]

Hello Till,

he wrote that he was changing port to 0. Didn't work. Changing port back to
119. Then it was working...

But i have tested this to and it doesn't help on my pc?!

Any hints?

I work with:
Host: news.alaska-software.net
Port: 119
Didn't work  


But:
Host: news.alaska-software.com
Port: 119
is working for the "normal" groups (not VX) ???

Greetings
Markus


"Till Warweg" <till.warweg@alaska-research.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:EjO0bIv0DHA.2012@S15147418...
> "Raymond Fischbach" <r_fischbach@tvcablenet.be> wrote in message
> news:upqz6gmc8di4$.15qj7qextn8t0$.dlg@40tude.net...
>
> > Hello Markus,
> >
> > Answered by e-mail
>
> Raymond,
>
> would you be so kind to post that info also here in this newsgroup?
> We are still having problems with certain newsreaders, it seems, and
> we appreciate all the info we can get.
>
> Thanks a lot,
>   Till
>   [Alaska Research & Development]
>
>

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:39:32 +0100, Till Warweg wrote:

> "Raymond Fischbach" <r_fischbach@tvcablenet.be> wrote in message
> news:upqz6gmc8di4$.15qj7qextn8t0$.dlg@40tude.net...
> 
> would you be so kind to post that info also here in this newsgroup?
> We are still having problems with certain newsreaders, it seems, and
> we appreciate all the info we can get.
> 
> Thanks a lot,
>   Till
>   [Alaska Research & Development]

Hi Till,

The settings for the 2 news froups are identical (except .com is replaced
by .net)
Both are using port 119.

The very first time I tried .net, I coudn't connect. Then I tried with
another newsreader (Agent) and it worked.
Then I changed port to 0 in 40tude and it did not work.
I put back port 119 and it worked.

Regards,

Raymond Fischbach
Belgium
http://www.mouches.org

All,

> The settings for the 2 news froups are identical (except .com is replaced
> by .net)
> Both are using port 119.
> 
> The very first time I tried .net, I coudn't connect. Then I tried with
> another newsreader (Agent) and it worked.
> Then I changed port to 0 in 40tude and it did not work.
> I put back port 119 and it worked.

I only learnt of the new newsgroups today, so pointed 40tude at it and
connected straight away without problems.

Regards,

Phil Ide

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* goto: http://www.idep.org.uk/xbase  *
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"Andreas Gehrs-Pahl" <Andreas@DDPSoftware.com> skrev i melding
news:1jssxwn7vcm0u.dm6ujk46q8c1$.dlg@40tude.net...
> I was not able to connect to this News Sever (news.alaska-software.net)
with

Could it be as simple as :
The server is called
"new.alaska-software.net"    and not
"news.alaska-software.net" as it probalbly should have been.

B.I.Kaarigstad

Hi,

 I'm having no trouble logging on with Agent. And it's called
"news...." not "new..."

John

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:03:11 +0100, "B.I.Kaarigstad"
<bkaarigs_at_online_dot_no> wrote:

>
>"Andreas Gehrs-Pahl" <Andreas@DDPSoftware.com> skrev i melding
>news:1jssxwn7vcm0u.dm6ujk46q8c1$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> I was not able to connect to this News Sever (news.alaska-software.net)
>with
>
>Could it be as simple as :
>The server is called
>"new.alaska-software.net"    and not
>"news.alaska-software.net" as it probalbly should have been.
>
>B.I.Kaarigstad
>
>
>

Wierd..........
I have had no problems at all with this news-goup, but the server name (in
the server tab , of the "property" for the news account) was typed new.+++
I changed it now to news.+++
And OE don't seam to care.

Hm, after some more testing it shows that the new/news part is not used at
all. ???
It is suffisient with only "alaska-software.net" as server.

B.I.Kaarigstad

"Jean-Marc Kaltenrieder" <kalten_jm@freesurf.ch> skrev i melding
news:v1rgvvgthnkcuctge2c6lkudqt1ubt7f81@4ax.com...
> Hi,
>
>  I'm having no trouble logging on with Agent. And it's called
> "news...." not "new..."
>
> John
>
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:03:11 +0100, "B.I.Kaarigstad"
> <bkaarigs_at_online_dot_no> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Andreas Gehrs-Pahl" <Andreas@DDPSoftware.com> skrev i melding
> >news:1jssxwn7vcm0u.dm6ujk46q8c1$.dlg@40tude.net...
> >> I was not able to connect to this News Sever (news.alaska-software.net)
> >with
> >
> >Could it be as simple as :
> >The server is called
> >"new.alaska-software.net"    and not
> >"news.alaska-software.net" as it probalbly should have been.
> >
> >B.I.Kaarigstad
> >
> >
> >
>

Mybe this is due to a faulty configuration of the news-server.
Tryed the same om the "news.alaska-software.com" and there I got a
connection error.

Also if I try to some Pings I get :

C:\Documents and Settings\bjrn>ping -n 1 news.alaska-software.com
Pinger news.alaska-software.com [195.125.199.77] med 32 byte data:
Svar fra 195.125.199.77: byte=32 tid=126ms TTL=112

C:\Documents and Settings\bjrn>ping -n 1 new.alaska-software.com
Ping-foresprsel kan ikke finne vert new.alaska-software.com. Kontroller
navnet
og prv p nytt.

C:\Documents and Settings\bjrn>ping -n 1 news.alaska-software.net
Pinger news.alaska-software.net [217.160.95.134] med 32 byte data:
Svar fra 217.160.95.134: byte=32 tid=76ms TTL=113

C:\Documents and Settings\bjrn>ping -n 1 new.alaska-software.net
Pinger new.alaska-software.net [217.160.95.134] med 32 byte data:
Svar fra 217.160.95.134: byte=32 tid=78ms TTL=113

C:\Documents and Settings\bjrn>ping -n 1
SomeThingIsDifferentAt.alaska-software.net
Pinger SomeThingIsDifferentAt.alaska-software.net [217.160.95.134] med 32
byte data:
Svar fra 217.160.95.134: byte=32 tid=88ms TTL=113

B.I.Kaarigstad



"B.I.Kaarigstad" <bkaarigs_at_online_dot_no> skrev i melding
news:3omgYNw0DHA.1640@S15147418...
> Wierd..........
> I have had no problems at all with this news-goup, but the server name (in
> the server tab , of the "property" for the news account) was typed new.+++
> I changed it now to news.+++
> And OE don't seam to care.
>
> Hm, after some more testing it shows that the new/news part is not used at
> all. ???
> It is suffisient with only "alaska-software.net" as server.
>
> B.I.Kaarigstad
>
> "Jean-Marc Kaltenrieder" <kalten_jm@freesurf.ch> skrev i melding
> news:v1rgvvgthnkcuctge2c6lkudqt1ubt7f81@4ax.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> >  I'm having no trouble logging on with Agent. And it's called
> > "news...." not "new..."
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:03:11 +0100, "B.I.Kaarigstad"
> > <bkaarigs_at_online_dot_no> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Andreas Gehrs-Pahl" <Andreas@DDPSoftware.com> skrev i melding
> > >news:1jssxwn7vcm0u.dm6ujk46q8c1$.dlg@40tude.net...
> > >> I was not able to connect to this News Sever
(news.alaska-software.net)
> > >with
> > >
> > >Could it be as simple as :
> > >The server is called
> > >"new.alaska-software.net"    and not
> > >"news.alaska-software.net" as it probalbly should have been.
> > >
> > >B.I.Kaarigstad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

For your information:

We've been trying to reproduce the problems you people describe
with your various newsreaders. So far, we've been unable to
reproduce them. The last attempt was using 40tude which some
of you also seem to have had trouble with. It run like a charm...
Since I'm beginning to lose track of what works and what doesn't,
I'll post the settings we've been using during our tests for your
reference. Maybe it helps somebody or at least serves to
establish common grounds.

Procedure:
 o Add a new account/news server
    Host: alaska-software.net (we omitted the "news." prefix
              for testing!)
    Port: 119 (default)
 o Subscribe all newsgroups supplied by the
    server. As opposed to Outlook Express, this seems to
    be a separate step in that a different tab page must be
    used to do this than the one that lists the groups.

o Notes:
   o SSL encryption must be disabled. Otherwise, the connection
      fails. This is the default, however.
   o The server does not require you to log on. In other words,
      user and password must be blank! Otherwise, connection
      fails. Again, this is the default.

In summary, we did not experience any problems. Does this
help anybody or do these settings differ from the ones you
were using?

We'll try the same with tin. It's a free download, is it?

Regards,
  Till

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Till,

>We'll try the same with tin. It's a free download, is it?

Actually, it is a UNIX/LINUX program. I use "tin pre-1.4 release" on 
"BSDI BSD/OS 4.0.1" -- but only as a user. The program is running on my 
internet service provider's computer. I really like the fast text-only, 
telnet-based internet experience, especially for email and news groups.

If I connect to the (old) ASTAG news server, the following appears on the 
screen, at start up:

>tin pre-1.4 release 971224 [UNIX] (c) Copyright 1991-98 Iain Lea.
>Reading config file...
>Connecting to news.alaska-software.com...
>DNews is in reader mode - posting ok.
>Reading input history file...
>Reading groups from active file...
>Checking for new groups...
>Reading attributes file...
>Reading global filter file...
>Reading newsgroups file...

And the program starts up as expected.

If I try to connect to the (new) ARD news server, the following appears on 
the screen, at start up:

>tin pre-1.4 release 971224 [UNIX] (c) Copyright 1991-98 Iain Lea.
>Reading config file...
>Connecting to news.alaska-software.net...
>NNTP Service 6.0.3790.0 Version: 6.0.3790.0 Posting Allowed
>Reading input history file...
>Reading groups from active file...
>Checking for new groups...
>Reading attributes file...
>Reading global filter file...
>Reading newsgroups file...

And then the program hangs, and nothing else ever happens, so I have to 
kill the process. It seems like tin does not get any NG names, like the 
description: "ASINet NewsGroup" that you use for the "...ASINet" NG on the 
ASTAG server, or "NewsGroup for XUGs" that is used for the "...usergroups" 
NG.

I suppose the source code for (this version of) tin is available somewhere, 
but I don't know where. The latest version of tin seems to be 1.6.2, but 
that version is not installed on the computer that I (have to) use.

-- Andreas

---                                                                      ---
  Andreas Gehrs-Pahl              E-Mail: GPahl@CharterMI.net
  415 Gute Street                     or: Andreas@DDPSoftware.com
  Owosso, MI 48867-4410               or: Andreas@Aerospace-History.net
  Tel: (989) 723-9927           Web Site: http://www.Aerospace-History.net
---                                                                      ---

"Andreas Gehrs-Pahl" <Andreas@DDPSoftware.com> wrote in message
news:bphpslnyqnhv$.1muw0e1ixdng1$.dlg@40tude.net...
> >We'll try the same with tin. It's a free download, is it?
>
> Actually, it is a UNIX/LINUX program.

Oops . Thanks for the heads up.

> If I connect to the (old) ASTAG news server, the following appears on the
> screen, at start up:
(...)

Right. We're off to a Linux box, then .

Thanks,
  Till

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