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B.I.Kaarigstad | Some thougts... on Fri, 26 Dec 2003 02:16:41 +0100 This was a great editor. (period) Maybe so great the I'm willing to change As you all know changing editors for us programmers is more or less as serious as changing wives Intelihelp is great, and in particualy the part where we can define the tip for ouer own functions The in source debuger is great. Project managment is good. My problem with this is that I want to keep all my source in one folder on one drive and the obj/dll/exe in and other drive/folder. This works in my current project file but not in VX. But this I probarbly can live with . What I miss most is : 1. Place the cursor on a function/procedure name, click a button and go there (In MED I then can go to a new function/proc +++ and click another button to set backwards) 2. When marking text I can hold the left button and move the mouse to mark, drag the marked text to a new position an get a copy. I miss to use the right button to mark text in collumn mode , and drag and drop with the right button to cut& paste So left button :mark text, copy&paste, right button: mark text collum mode, cut&paste 3. When cursor is placed in front/end/on one part of a pair, the other part is marked/highlited. Very usefull when something is wrong with structures. In MED this works for pairs like if/endif, do/enddo+++ and () {} [] And then I wonder: What is the "screen" with some reselution marked on used for ? On top there is a big (tool)-bar that is empty??? What for ? B.I.Kaarigstad | |
Mike Evans | Re: Some thougts... on Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:38:34 +0200 Kaaringstad The screen with the resolution and the empty part of the toolbar is the place with the windows controls for the full version of the IDE (Forms- Database modeller etc).. The same is the ALT-6 keys combination. Merry Christmas Mike Evans "B.I.Kaarigstad" <bkaarigs_at_online_dot_no> wrote in message news:619jr30yDHA.1976@S15147418... > This was a great editor. (period) > Maybe so great the I'm willing to change As you all know changing editors > for us programmers is more or less as serious as changing wives > Intelihelp is great, and in particualy the part where we can define the tip > for ouer own functions > The in source debuger is great. > Project managment is good. > My problem with this is that I want to keep all my source in one folder on > one drive and the obj/dll/exe in and other drive/folder. > This works in my current project file but not in VX. > But this I probarbly can live with . > > What I miss most is : > 1. Place the cursor on a function/procedure name, click a button and go > there > (In MED I then can go to a new function/proc +++ and click another button > to set backwards) > 2. When marking text I can hold the left button and move the mouse to mark, > drag the marked text to a new position an get a copy. > I miss to use the right button to mark text in collumn mode , and drag and > drop with the right button to cut& paste > So left button :mark text, copy&paste, right button: mark text collum mode, > cut&paste > 3. When cursor is placed in front/end/on one part of a pair, the other part > is marked/highlited. Very usefull when something is wrong with structures. > In MED this works for pairs like if/endif, do/enddo+++ and () {} [] > > And then I wonder: > What is the "screen" with some reselution marked on used for ? > On top there is a big (tool)-bar that is empty??? What for ? > > B.I.Kaarigstad > > | |
Massimo Belgrano | Re: Some thougts... on Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:56:43 +0100 I am also loving some good capability of Med "B.I.Kaarigstad" <bkaarigs_at_online_dot_no> ha scritto nel messaggio news:619jr30yDHA.1976@S15147418... > This was a great editor. (period) > Maybe so great the I'm willing to change As you all know changing editors > for us programmers is more or less as serious as changing wives > Intelihelp is great, and in particualy the part where we can define the tip > for ouer own functions > The in source debuger is great. > Project managment is good. > My problem with this is that I want to keep all my source in one folder on > one drive and the obj/dll/exe in and other drive/folder. > This works in my current project file but not in VX. > But this I probarbly can live with . > > What I miss most is : > 1. Place the cursor on a function/procedure name, click a button and go > there > (In MED I then can go to a new function/proc +++ and click another button > to set backwards) > 2. When marking text I can hold the left button and move the mouse to mark, > drag the marked text to a new position an get a copy. > I miss to use the right button to mark text in collumn mode , and drag and > drop with the right button to cut& paste > So left button :mark text, copy&paste, right button: mark text collum mode, > cut&paste > 3. When cursor is placed in front/end/on one part of a pair, the other part > is marked/highlited. Very usefull when something is wrong with structures. > In MED this works for pairs like if/endif, do/enddo+++ and () {} [] > > And then I wonder: > What is the "screen" with some reselution marked on used for ? > On top there is a big (tool)-bar that is empty??? What for ? > > B.I.Kaarigstad > > | |
Kai Froeb | Re: Some thougts... on Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:35:39 +0100 Don't worry, B.I.Kaarigstad, all what you miss is there: > What I miss most is : > 1. Place the cursor on a function/procedure name, click a button and > go there (In MED I then can go to a new function/proc +++ and click another > button to set backwards) Hold down the Ctrl-Key and click on a variable, a method, a prodecure/function name and you will be taen to its definition. A click on the light blue little arrow in the upper right corner of teh editor tab window will bring you back. Unfortunately this seems at present only to workl within the current prg-file. I think it should aslso work in between different files of the project (this is also where it makes most sense). > 2. When marking text I can hold the left button and move the mouse to > mark, drag the marked text to a new position an get a copy. > I miss to use the right button to mark text in collumn mode , and > drag and drop with the right button to cut& paste > So left button :mark text, copy&paste, right button: mark text collum > mode, cut&paste You can mark a column for later copy/cut and paste in two different ways: - by keyboard: hold down the ctrl and alt key when you move the cursor. - by mouse: hold down shift and alt key, whuiel movuing the mouse (I always mean the left shift/alt/ctrl key, in case that matters) Drag and drop of marked blocks via mouse is enabled by default, but you can disable it on teh first tab page of teh editor options if you like BTW, both feature (1) and (2) work same as in the Borland IDEs (Delphi, C++ Builder, JBuilder), so may be you can find that even more tricks of the Borland IDE editor also work in the Alska++ Editor. > 3. When cursor is placed in front/end/on one part of a pair, the > other part is marked/highlited. Very usefull when something is wrong > with structures. In MED this works for pairs like if/endif, > do/enddo+++ and () {} [] Well, in the Alska IDE it works at least for the () {} [] pairs: when you place the cursor directly behind one of these charachters (either becuase you just type4d it or becuase you placed your cursdor tehre for editing/nspecting), teh coresponding other part of the pair wuill be highlighted in dark blue. I don't know yet if one can customie the color and/or expand it to other pairs like if/endif. > And then I wonder: > What is the "screen" with some reselution marked on used for ? > On top there is a big (tool)-bar that is empty??? What for ? Of course both are related to formdesigner. The "screen" trool looks very simialr to one in Visual Basic (so it seems that Alaska wanted to include all good stuff from all well known IDEs), but only makes sense when defining a form. So it shouldn't realy show up in the CCE (code centered edition = VX 2.0). Same for the big empty toolbar on the left, which should probably contain the controls to place on a form in form designer. HTH and all teh best, Kai | |
B.I.Kaarigstad | Re: Some thougts... on Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:11:19 +0100 "Kai Froeb" <kai@froeb-software.de> skrev i melding news:%23OMKax6yDHA.1976@S15147418... > Don't worry, B.I.Kaarigstad, all what you miss is there: Thanks for the clarification. And it was good news. but ; (everyone has a but, allways ) > Hold down the Ctrl-Key and click on a variable, a method, a > prodecure/function This I did not find and I have not had the time to check it out but it sounds good. I still want a button (hate using mouse+keyboard) but that will hopfully come with a fully customable toolbar, where ever command can be made into a button. Its still a PreRelease and thats why I make my point now.... (And it should of course work in the project and not a single file.) > You can mark a column for later copy/cut and paste in two different ways: Yes I noticed that, and that was good, but my point was that it is much easyer to use the right mouse button than a combination of keys and mouse So I still miss that part.: Left button -> mark, copy&paste Right button ->mark collum mode, cut&paste > BTW, both feature (1) and (2) work same as in the Borland IDEs > (Delphi, C++ Builder, JBuilder), so may be you can find that even > more tricks of the Borland IDE editor also work in the Alska++ > Editor. Maybe, I dont use/know any of them so I could not tell. > Well, in the Alska IDE it works at least for the () {} [] pairs: when you > place > the cursor directly behind one of these charachters (either becuase you just > type4d it > or becuase you placed your cursdor tehre for editing/nspecting), teh > coresponding > other part of the pair wuill be highlighted in dark blue. Thats good. I did not notice that, only tested on if/endif It is most essensial on () [] and {} becouse nested arrays can be a nightmare. Propperly formatted source will display most structural errors , and as I under- -stand it it should be easy to write a "integrated" tool for source formating. > Of course both are related to formdesigner. The "screen" trool looks > very simialr to one in Visual Basic (so it seems that Alaska wanted > to include all good stuff from all well known IDEs), but only Ok, was to exited to think of it as a PRE-Release... But you are probarbly rigth. I just could not make any use of it and wondered. And that is fair enough, thats becouse of my high expectation I'll wait and see. > HTH and all teh best, > Kai Thanks for your help. B.I Kaarigstad. PS: To all my fellow programmers here and there (news.alaska-software.com) I'll be away for a week or so. Taking a trip to Gran Canary with the Spau (Girlfriend) and 5 kid. First real timeoff in more than 10 year. no laptop, no internet, not even a cellular.... So I will not exist from tomorrow (eh.. today....) at around 1 pm . |