Hello colleagues,

unfortunately In the last years the DEVCON allways  tooks place in the USA.
Because of my handicap (i am sitting in an electric wheelchair)  the very
long flight,  wasn't possible.
Therefore i were glad, that the DEVCON this year takes place in the
Netherlands.
But unfortunately i must find out, that i couldn't take part again.
Because the place of the conference is an old castle where the knights
lived, and they didn't have an elevator.
The rooms of the conference are in the third floor, only  accessible over 30
steps.
Indeed the organisators told me, they would help me, but i think this is not
reasonable to the  participants to carry me over 30 steps several times a
day.
This would destroy the timetable between the sessions.
Because i work with eXpress++ and xbase++ very intensitive, it would be nice
for me,  to meet the Gurus personal.
In future I want to ask you, to take consideration for the handicaped
persons, when you are planning such an organizing.
They  also  should have the possibility to take part in this!!

Hi,
why should it be impossible to carry you 30 steps several times a day? May i
ask you for your weight and that of your electric wheelchair?
Isnt there any solution? Now we are working with computers in
high-tec-scenarios and are unable to help handicapped people? I for my
person are willing to help you over this steps and I hope that all other
participiants af the DEVCON will think like me.
Klemens

<T-Online@T-Online.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:lChGChFiEHA.348@S15147418...
> Hello colleagues,
>
> unfortunately In the last years the DEVCON allways  tooks place in the
USA.
> Because of my handicap (i am sitting in an electric wheelchair)  the very
> long flight,  wasn't possible.
> Therefore i were glad, that the DEVCON this year takes place in the
> Netherlands.
> But unfortunately i must find out, that i couldn't take part again.
> Because the place of the conference is an old castle where the knights
> lived, and they didn't have an elevator.
> The rooms of the conference are in the third floor, only  accessible over
30
> steps.
> Indeed the organisators told me, they would help me, but i think this is
not
> reasonable to the  participants to carry me over 30 steps several times a
> day.
> This would destroy the timetable between the sessions.
> Because i work with eXpress++ and xbase++ very intensitive, it would be
nice
> for me,  to meet the Gurus personal.
> In future I want to ask you, to take consideration for the handicaped
> persons, when you are planning such an organizing.
> They  also  should have the possibility to take part in this!!
>
>
>

Klemens,

> why should it be impossible to carry you 30 steps several times a day? May i
> ask you for your weight and that of your electric wheelchair?
> Isn´t there any solution? Now we are working with computers in
> high-tec-scenarios and are unable to help handicapped people? I for my
> person are willing to help you over this steps and I hope that all other
> participiants af the DEVCON will think like me.

Yeah, I'd be happy to do what I can.

Regards,

Phil Ide

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Phil Ide <phil@idep.org.uk> wrote in news:izn6pgufdy0s$.dlg@idep.org.uk:

>> why should it be impossible to carry you 30 steps several times a
>> day? May i ask you for your weight and that of your electric
>> wheelchair? Isnt there any solution? Now we are working with
>> computers in high-tec-scenarios and are unable to help handicapped
>> people? I for my person are willing to help you over this steps and I
>> hope that all other participiants af the DEVCON will think like me.
> 
> Yeah, I'd be happy to do what I can.

Same here.

Best regards,
Boris Borzic

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Hello,

I am working on that subject right now. Unfortunaly the Castle manager has
his day off today.
Personel told me there was a elevator in the castle, but they did not have
details.
I wil contact the Castle manager tomorrow.

Regards,
Jack Duijf

<T-Online@T-Online.de> schreef in bericht news:lChGChFiEHA.348@S15147418...
> Hello colleagues,
>
> unfortunately In the last years the DEVCON allways  tooks place in the
USA.
> Because of my handicap (i am sitting in an electric wheelchair)  the very
> long flight,  wasn't possible.
> Therefore i were glad, that the DEVCON this year takes place in the
> Netherlands.
> But unfortunately i must find out, that i couldn't take part again.
> Because the place of the conference is an old castle where the knights
> lived, and they didn't have an elevator.
> The rooms of the conference are in the third floor, only  accessible over
30
> steps.
> Indeed the organisators told me, they would help me, but i think this is
not
> reasonable to the  participants to carry me over 30 steps several times a
> day.
> This would destroy the timetable between the sessions.
> Because i work with eXpress++ and xbase++ very intensitive, it would be
nice
> for me,  to meet the Gurus personal.
> In future I want to ask you, to take consideration for the handicaped
> persons, when you are planning such an organizing.
> They  also  should have the possibility to take part in this!!
>
>
>

Let me know if I can be of assistance.

Best regards

Bruce


"Jack Duijf" <jdsoftware@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:fHpEbOEkEHA.2992@S15147418...
> Hello,
>
> I am working on that subject right now. Unfortunaly the Castle manager has
> his day off today.
> Personel told me there was a elevator in the castle, but they did not have
> details.
> I wil contact the Castle manager tomorrow.
>
> Regards,
> Jack Duijf
>
> <T-Online@T-Online.de> schreef in bericht
news:lChGChFiEHA.348@S15147418...
> > Hello colleagues,
> >
> > unfortunately In the last years the DEVCON allways  tooks place in the
> USA.
> > Because of my handicap (i am sitting in an electric wheelchair)  the
very
> > long flight,  wasn't possible.
> > Therefore i were glad, that the DEVCON this year takes place in the
> > Netherlands.
> > But unfortunately i must find out, that i couldn't take part again.
> > Because the place of the conference is an old castle where the knights
> > lived, and they didn't have an elevator.
> > The rooms of the conference are in the third floor, only  accessible
over
> 30
> > steps.
> > Indeed the organisators told me, they would help me, but i think this is
> not
> > reasonable to the  participants to carry me over 30 steps several times
a
> > day.
> > This would destroy the timetable between the sessions.
> > Because i work with eXpress++ and xbase++ very intensitive, it would be
> nice
> > for me,  to meet the Gurus personal.
> > In future I want to ask you, to take consideration for the handicaped
> > persons, when you are planning such an organizing.
> > They  also  should have the possibility to take part in this!!
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Hello All,

I am still unable to contact the castle manager. I wil come back on this
issue.

Jack Duijf


"Jack Duijf" <jdsoftware@tiscali.nl> schreef in bericht
news:fHpEbOEkEHA.2992@S15147418...
> Hello,
>
> I am working on that subject right now. Unfortunaly the Castle manager has
> his day off today.
> Personel told me there was a elevator in the castle, but they did not have
> details.
> I wil contact the Castle manager tomorrow.
>
> Regards,
> Jack Duijf
>
> <T-Online@T-Online.de> schreef in bericht
news:lChGChFiEHA.348@S15147418...
> > Hello colleagues,
> >
> > unfortunately In the last years the DEVCON allways  tooks place in the
> USA.
> > Because of my handicap (i am sitting in an electric wheelchair)  the
very
> > long flight,  wasn't possible.
> > Therefore i were glad, that the DEVCON this year takes place in the
> > Netherlands.
> > But unfortunately i must find out, that i couldn't take part again.
> > Because the place of the conference is an old castle where the knights
> > lived, and they didn't have an elevator.
> > The rooms of the conference are in the third floor, only  accessible
over
> 30
> > steps.
> > Indeed the organisators told me, they would help me, but i think this is
> not
> > reasonable to the  participants to carry me over 30 steps several times
a
> > day.
> > This would destroy the timetable between the sessions.
> > Because i work with eXpress++ and xbase++ very intensitive, it would be
> nice
> > for me,  to meet the Gurus personal.
> > In future I want to ask you, to take consideration for the handicaped
> > persons, when you are planning such an organizing.
> > They  also  should have the possibility to take part in this!!
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Hello,

I have contacted the castle manager, and we discussed the posseblilities.

- There are 3 bedrooms that are especialy adapted for  handicaped. Special
wide doors, and special bathroom.
- There is a lift to the first flour so there is access to the Chapel, and
the Knghts hall.
- There is a wheelchair availeble if the owners (electrical) wheelchair is
to heavy for the lift.

- The Library and Conference room are not accesseble whit a wheelchair.


XXP
Jack Duijf



<T-Online@T-Online.de> schreef in bericht news:lChGChFiEHA.348@S15147418...
> Hello colleagues,
>
> unfortunately In the last years the DEVCON allways  tooks place in the
USA.
> Because of my handicap (i am sitting in an electric wheelchair)  the very
> long flight,  wasn't possible.
> Therefore i were glad, that the DEVCON this year takes place in the
> Netherlands.
> But unfortunately i must find out, that i couldn't take part again.
> Because the place of the conference is an old castle where the knights
> lived, and they didn't have an elevator.
> The rooms of the conference are in the third floor, only  accessible over
30
> steps.
> Indeed the organisators told me, they would help me, but i think this is
not
> reasonable to the  participants to carry me over 30 steps several times a
> day.
> This would destroy the timetable between the sessions.
> Because i work with eXpress++ and xbase++ very intensitive, it would be
nice
> for me,  to meet the Gurus personal.
> In future I want to ask you, to take consideration for the handicaped
> persons, when you are planning such an organizing.
> They  also  should have the possibility to take part in this!!
>
>
>