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Nevzat KanburMicrosoft OutLook Express in Alaska xbase++
on Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:04:07 +0300
Hi,

I want to write simple eMail application like Microsoft's OutLook Express in
xbase++.

As known, if application reads the eMails from server in POP3 mode all
messages are saved on user computer and deleted from server.
So that other users can not see any message on Mail server.

In IMAP mode, messages are kept on server after read. So that other users
can see the messages on server.
But in this case account message storage limit is over and (eg 200 MB)
server does not accept any new messages.
In order to receive additional messages old messages must be deleted from
server.

I could not see any setting in Outlook Express or in ThunderBird to delete
old messages.

Please let me know if I missed something.

Because of above reasons I want to write application in xbase++ to read
messages from server and allow users see the all messages in network env.

Any help please?

regards

Nevzat
Thomas Braun
Re: Microsoft OutLook Express in Alaska xbase++
on Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:08:06 +0200
Nevzat Kanbur wrote:

> As known, if application reads the eMails from server in POP3 mode all
> messages are saved on user computer and deleted from server.

This is not 100% correct - POP3 can retrieve mails without deleting.

> I could not see any setting in Outlook Express or in ThunderBird to delete
> old messages.

Not sure about that - I'm using TheBat as my email client and this
application has very good functionality tha allows you to see all the
messages on the mail server and delete any of them.

> I want to write simple eMail application like Microsoft's OutLook Express in
> xbase++.

All you need is here, the product is called see4xb:

http://www.marshallsoft.com/

Direct product page:

http://www.marshallsoft.com/see4xb.htm

Thomas
Claudio Driussi Re: Microsoft OutLook Express in Alaska xbase++
on Tue, 19 Apr 2011 11:53:29 +0200
Il 19/04/2011 09:08, Thomas Braun wrote:

> Not sure about that - I'm using TheBat as my email client and this
> application has very good functionality

Why TheBat? It's better?
I use Thunderbird which is very good and simple and has
many plug-ins when needed.

Just curious

Claudio
Thomas Braun
Re: Microsoft OutLook Express in Alaska xbase++
on Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:02:10 +0200
Claudio Driussi wrote:

> Il 19/04/2011 09:08, Thomas Braun wrote:
> 
>> Not sure about that - I'm using TheBat as my email client and this
>> application has very good functionality
> 
> Why TheBat? It's better?
> I use Thunderbird which is very good and simple and has
> many plug-ins when needed.

I use TheBat for my private email account because it has a very good
filtering module - not sure about how it compares to Thunderbird since I
never used it.

At work we are using Outlook & Exchange server though...

Thomas
Boris BorzicConverting from Microsoft OutLook Express
on Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:15:50 +0200
Thomas Braun <spam@software-braun.de> wrote in news:h4ccyjr4qr8f
$.2xwxnr6cja0$.dlg@40tude.net:

>>> Not sure about that - I'm using TheBat as my email client and this
>>> application has very good functionality
>> 
>> Why TheBat? It's better?
>> I use Thunderbird which is very good and simple and has
>> many plug-ins when needed.
> 
> I use TheBat for my private email account because it has a very good
> filtering module - not sure about how it compares to Thunderbird since I
> never used it.

I'm looking for a new email client. I have been using Outlook Express  for 
the past 10+ years and I like it. The problem is I can't use OE anymore 
when upgrading to Windows 7. Microsoft has replaced OE with Windows Mail. I 
have tried it, but don't really like it because:

1. Mail messages are saved as individual files in multiple levels of 
subdirectories (in OE each email folder was one large file). This takes up 
more disk space, it's more convoluted and slower to back-up. Note, I have 
about 11 years of email stored in the OE files.

2. Windows Mail is slower.

3. My address book is not converted properly (the folders in my OE address 
book are lost).

Have looked at Thunderbird - looks good but I still have the problem 
with #3. 

I would like an email client that I can easily copy to a USB stick (along 
with all my settings and 11 years of data). What can others recommend?


Best regards,
Boris Borzic

http://xb2.net
http://sqlexpress.net
industrial strength Xbase++ development tools
Thomas Braun
Re: Converting from Microsoft OutLook Express
on Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:39:29 +0200
Boris Borzic wrote:

> I would like an email client that I can easily copy to a USB stick (along 
> with all my settings and 11 years of data). What can others recommend?

Take a look at TheBat Voyager: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/voyager/

I also changed from OutlookExpress - so I'm quite sure that you will be
able to import all your email and address book data... you may also ask at
the forum first: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/

Thomas
Boris BorzicRe: Converting from Microsoft OutLook Express
on Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:20:15 +0200
Thomas Braun <spam@software-braun.de> wrote in
news:1br0w8r69a4ni.1px2kynq11h6z.dlg@40tude.net: 

>> I would like an email client that I can easily copy to a USB stick
>> (along with all my settings and 11 years of data). What can others
>> recommend? 
> 
> Take a look at TheBat Voyager:
> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/voyager/ 
> 
> I also changed from OutlookExpress - so I'm quite sure that you will
> be able to import all your email and address book data... you may also
> ask at the forum first: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/

Thanks, will have a look. My only concern is that many spam emails contain 
"the bat" in the headers and this may result in emails sent with this 
client to be tagged as spam. Have you found this to be an issue?

Best regards,
Boris Borzic

http://xb2.net
http://sqlexpress.net
industrial strength Xbase++ development tools
Thomas Braun
Re: Converting from Microsoft OutLook Express
on Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:49:57 +0200
Boris Borzic wrote:

> Thanks, will have a look. My only concern is that many spam emails contain 
> "the bat" in the headers and this may result in emails sent with this 
> client to be tagged as spam. 

Admins that filter on the x-mailer header field are idiots.

You can switch off the x-mailer header in TheBat's settings.

Thomas